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		<title>Comment on X # of ?’s on Business and Social Media by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - sorry, this may have come across as more argumentative.  The truth is I&#039;ve been mulling over social networking and rural regions for a few months now so it&#039;s nice to see someone else having similar thoughts.

I moved to the Ulster area a little over a year ago, and Kingston specifically[currently working over at the 721 Media Center] just this year.  Coming up from the city requires some rethinking of designs and such, and when talking to people in this area I tend to run into those who have either tried &quot;social media&quot; and found it a failure because it doesn&#039;t provide the same level of benefit, or those who are against &quot;social media&quot; because they are against the internet in general[prizing actual physical human interaction over interaction over a network].

So I mull and think about what social networking really is, and how it can help and what aspects are irrelevant for a rural area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; sorry, this may have come across as more argumentative.  The truth is I&#8217;ve been mulling over social networking and rural regions for a few months now so it&#8217;s nice to see someone else having similar thoughts.</p>
<p>I moved to the Ulster area a little over a year ago, and Kingston specifically[currently working over at the 721 Media Center] just this year.  Coming up from the city requires some rethinking of designs and such, and when talking to people in this area I tend to run into those who have either tried &#8220;social media&#8221; and found it a failure because it doesn&#8217;t provide the same level of benefit, or those who are against &#8220;social media&#8221; because they are against the internet in general[prizing actual physical human interaction over interaction over a network].</p>
<p>So I mull and think about what social networking really is, and how it can help and what aspects are irrelevant for a rural area.</p>
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		<title>Comment on O\W moving to Wall Street by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I looked at your directions page and it is still giving directions for Tech City</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I looked at your directions page and it is still giving directions for Tech City</p>
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		<title>Comment on X # of ?’s on Business and Social Media by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In marketing terms[being involved with email advertising/content I tend to think that way these days] smaller does have it&#039;s benefits, the downside is selling.  With webadvertising, people are used to selling based on large numbers of views.  So in the city, they have no problem selling at a 5 cents per thousand views, you get one hundred thousand views and that&#039;s 500 dollars.

But up here, you won&#039;t get that sort of traffic[for example, the berkshires.org website has something like 10,000 subscribers].  Generally, ad-revenue wise you still need that same 500 dollars to even be worth the time sending.  So selling can be difficult and has to move towards &quot;are we your target market&quot; - out of 100,000 people interested in travel in the northeast, you might get 10,000 good hits, so the 500 spend was ok.  So the people who should be paying for ads on a newsletter about the Berkshires are the people who specifically want to reach 10k of people interested IN the Berkshires.

It can certainly work, and there is no reason not to pursue it, I just feel that the terminology has to shift to reflect that your dealing with a focused community - where advertising for Starbucks might not be appropriate, but for the local Williams Lumber IS appropriate.

I find, for this area at least, that talking about &quot;social&quot; media is a turn off for many simply because they view it negatively based on preconceived notion.  Shift the topic to &quot;community&quot; media, just a wording change and an emphasis on what one actually wants to build - and it brings it into focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In marketing terms[being involved with email advertising/content I tend to think that way these days] smaller does have it&#8217;s benefits, the downside is selling.  With webadvertising, people are used to selling based on large numbers of views.  So in the city, they have no problem selling at a 5 cents per thousand views, you get one hundred thousand views and that&#8217;s 500 dollars.</p>
<p>But up here, you won&#8217;t get that sort of traffic[for example, the berkshires.org website has something like 10,000 subscribers].  Generally, ad-revenue wise you still need that same 500 dollars to even be worth the time sending.  So selling can be difficult and has to move towards &#8220;are we your target market&#8221; &#8211; out of 100,000 people interested in travel in the northeast, you might get 10,000 good hits, so the 500 spend was ok.  So the people who should be paying for ads on a newsletter about the Berkshires are the people who specifically want to reach 10k of people interested IN the Berkshires.</p>
<p>It can certainly work, and there is no reason not to pursue it, I just feel that the terminology has to shift to reflect that your dealing with a focused community &#8211; where advertising for Starbucks might not be appropriate, but for the local Williams Lumber IS appropriate.</p>
<p>I find, for this area at least, that talking about &#8220;social&#8221; media is a turn off for many simply because they view it negatively based on preconceived notion.  Shift the topic to &#8220;community&#8221; media, just a wording change and an emphasis on what one actually wants to build &#8211; and it brings it into focus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on X # of ?’s on Business and Social Media by Ric Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, Gary.  Although It does seem that aspects of Twitter and especially Facebook fit in the regional model quite well.  For instance, there is a strong contingency of Ulster County people on Twitter.  I&#039;ve been coming to the belief that smaller social networking groups of more relevant communications is very powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, Gary.  Although It does seem that aspects of Twitter and especially Facebook fit in the regional model quite well.  For instance, there is a strong contingency of Ulster County people on Twitter.  I&#8217;ve been coming to the belief that smaller social networking groups of more relevant communications is very powerful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To upload PDFs , Word Docs, Excel Files, and other files in Wordpress by Ric Dragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ric Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True; you can publish from Word to a blog post... although Word makes so much lousy code, I don&#039;t recommend it [with caveats; if it really makes blogging that much easier for you, better to get that new content up]  But this tip above, is for when you WANT that document attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True; you can publish from Word to a blog post&#8230; although Word makes so much lousy code, I don&#8217;t recommend it [with caveats; if it really makes blogging that much easier for you, better to get that new content up]  But this tip above, is for when you WANT that document attached.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To upload PDFs , Word Docs, Excel Files, and other files in Wordpress by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MSWord will supposedly publish to Wordpress directly, no need to upload as a file.

http://www.richardbyrom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/setting-up-word-2007-for-blogging-using-the-metaweblog-api/

My own version of word is too downlevel to try it out, so I have yet to test the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSWord will supposedly publish to Wordpress directly, no need to upload as a file.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.richardbyrom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/setting-up-word-2007-for-blogging-using-the-metaweblog-api/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.richardbyrom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/setting-up-word-2007-for-blogging-using-the-metaweblog-api/?referer=');">http://www.richardbyrom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/setting-up-word-2007-for-blogging-using-the-metaweblog-api/</a></p>
<p>My own version of word is too downlevel to try it out, so I have yet to test the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cool Gmail Trick by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, since such collection and sale of addresses is illegal, please inform the FCC through their online form at http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, since such collection and sale of addresses is illegal, please inform the FCC through their online form at <a href="http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm?referer=');">http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on X # of ?’s on Business and Social Media by Gary A Mort</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary A Mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social media also has a regional component.  For example, the whole aspect of social media such as facebook and twitter is that users post about what they are doing WHEN they are doing it.  Using their cell phones and portable computers, their always updating.

This makes social networking a very good fit for places like NYC and a very bad fit for, oh, say Ulster County. :-)  When your cool iphone gadget that tells people about all the nearby wineries based on the GPS in the phone suddenly stops working just as one is driving past the ulster county wineries...well, social media is not a help there.

There is also the marketing aspect of social media.  There are people who make good money posting articles to their blog, and running ads down the side for income.  The trick is, these people have to have at the very least citywide, and preferably worldwide appeal.  They make fractions of a cent per viewer, so they need hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of viewers to make money.

Wheras is rural areas, again such as Ulster,  what you have is hundreds, maybe thousands for an audience.  As such, marketing must shift focus completely from &quot;social&quot; to &quot;community&quot;.  For rural regions the key is rebranding social media as &quot;Community media&quot; - people understand what that means.  They automatically know that a community is a small group of people of like minds, not thousands of people where a small fraction may find something appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social media also has a regional component.  For example, the whole aspect of social media such as facebook and twitter is that users post about what they are doing WHEN they are doing it.  Using their cell phones and portable computers, their always updating.</p>
<p>This makes social networking a very good fit for places like NYC and a very bad fit for, oh, say Ulster County. <img src='http://www.oxclove.com/blog-by-design/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   When your cool iphone gadget that tells people about all the nearby wineries based on the GPS in the phone suddenly stops working just as one is driving past the ulster county wineries&#8230;well, social media is not a help there.</p>
<p>There is also the marketing aspect of social media.  There are people who make good money posting articles to their blog, and running ads down the side for income.  The trick is, these people have to have at the very least citywide, and preferably worldwide appeal.  They make fractions of a cent per viewer, so they need hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of viewers to make money.</p>
<p>Wheras is rural areas, again such as Ulster,  what you have is hundreds, maybe thousands for an audience.  As such, marketing must shift focus completely from &#8220;social&#8221; to &#8220;community&#8221;.  For rural regions the key is rebranding social media as &#8220;Community media&#8221; &#8211; people understand what that means.  They automatically know that a community is a small group of people of like minds, not thousands of people where a small fraction may find something appealing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tech-friendly Kingston by Arthur Zaczkiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur Zaczkiewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Oxlcove,

Would someone at your firm be interested in doing a Q&amp;A with the KingstonCitizens.org blog? Let me know.

Best,
Arthur</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Oxlcove,</p>
<p>Would someone at your firm be interested in doing a Q&amp;A with the KingstonCitizens.org blog? Let me know.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Arthur</p>
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		<title>Comment on Agencies and PR Firms &#8211; when doing digital, process matters by Henry Blaufox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Blaufox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, PR firms have to manage the digital realm, too. This goes not only for planned client campaigns, when firms have to determine how to include digital in the mix, but also when handling emergency situations. Bad news spreads quickly on the web, we know - and inaccurate information can take on a life of its own.

So, a combination of press releases posted to high impact sites, PPC campaigns to help manage web traffic and get the client&#039;s message out, appropriate blog posts, executive video interviews and other techniques should be used. Often this has to come together in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, PR firms have to manage the digital realm, too. This goes not only for planned client campaigns, when firms have to determine how to include digital in the mix, but also when handling emergency situations. Bad news spreads quickly on the web, we know &#8211; and inaccurate information can take on a life of its own.</p>
<p>So, a combination of press releases posted to high impact sites, PPC campaigns to help manage web traffic and get the client&#8217;s message out, appropriate blog posts, executive video interviews and other techniques should be used. Often this has to come together in a hurry.</p>
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